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Dear Atheists

lemonmeringue13:

I am SO sick of Christians being portrayed as stupid and Atheists being portrayed as the only reasonable logical people on the face of the earth.  Many of my friends, and most of my oldest dearest friends are atheists.  I’ve been on a knife’s edge with my faith, but arrogant atheists always keep me resolute.

First of all, a true scientist is agnostic.  They are skeptical, but only disbelieve that which is disproved.  Science does not PROVE ANYTHING, that is NOT what science is about.  Science is a humble and methodical examination of the material world around us.  It cannot prove or disprove the human soul, it cannot prove or disprove God, it cannot prove or disprove historic Christianity.  All it can do is take a humble look at the world, and as dispassionately as possible attempt to draw conclusions.  Perhaps the most brilliant mind of an age, Albert Einstein, did not approve of atheism and preferred a “humble agnosticism.”  He referenced God on multiple occasions.  

Most atheists don’t know anything about religion.  It is all myth and ignorance to them.  The idea of faith through reason is not something they can fathom, because they have not read anything other than science textbooks, certainty no Thomas Aquinas.  Very few of my atheist friends, I’d wager, have ever read the entire bible or even Darwin’s entire Origin of Species.  All they need to know about Christianity is Galileo’s history.  A few of them know about Mendel’s genetics.  Almost none of them know that the Big Bang theory is traced back to a Catholic priest. No, these scientific discoveries are dismissed, covered up, or reduced to “oh, well he must not have been Christian, he was only a Priest to get a cheap education…”  Please.  

True  atheism has no central tenants such as the Christian faith, other than the belief there is no God, and have no delusion, that is a belief.  Science can’t comment on God though.  So no, there is no scientific basis for atheistic belief, no more than there is for Christian, Buddhist, or Muslim belief.  

So stop your hate campaign.  Stop belittling people for having faith that there is something more, because you have faith too.  You have faith that there is nothing more.  I’m willing to bet people will ultimately choose faith, reasoned faith, but faith nonetheless.  A belief in something higher is better than a belief in nothing.  The diversity of Christian belief is vast, and there are reasonable Christians, then there are less reasonable. 

Keep in mind the belief in people’s equality found in our founding documents was born from Christian belief, science couldn’t prove it until much later.  It was a belief.  For example, it was the extreme religious element of society that proved most crucial in the Underground Railroad.  So maybe there’s something to this Christianity.  Maybe not.  However hating us and trying to make us look stupid won’t work.  The Westboro Baptists are not the heart of Christianity, Christ is, and he has a very different message.  

I don’t usually comment on these post but I just want to make some quick replies.

First the Good:

I am SO sick of Christians being portrayed as stupid and Atheists being portrayed as the only reasonable logical people on the face of the earth.

So far I agree, I know many intelligent people that are also very religious and many atheists that are not really very bright (to say the least)

 The Westboro Baptists are not the heart of Christianity, Christ is, and he has a very different message.  

OK,  this is also true, Westboro Baptists are not (in my opinion) what all religious people behave like.

Sorry, Couldn’t find much more to agree with.

Now the Bad

First of all, a true scientist is agnostic.  They are skeptical, but only disbelieve that which is disproved.

The true scientist apply the scientific method, there’s nothing much else to it so I don’t follow this claim. They should be skeptical, that’s true but “ only disbelieve that which is disproved” it’s so wrong… really wrong.

If something is proven then you have rational reasons to believe in it, not the other way around. No one has disproved that a cyborg unicorn lives in mars, that doesn’t means that is reasonable to assume there is.

Perhaps the most brilliant mind of an age, Albert Einstein, did not approve of atheism and preferred a “humble agnosticism.”  He referenced God on multiple occasions.  

I don’t even want to discuss this so I’ll just quote

“It’s irrelevant whether he may or may not maybe sorta kinda entertained the idea of a greater power or not.  Whatever his beliefs were, it never superseded his work as a physicist*. His concerns were that of the material world.” more…

Most atheists don’t know anything about religion. 

I’m pretty sure many atheists are well versed in religion texts. But I can really only speak for myself: I was raised in a religious family, baptized, made my first comunion, studied in a religious school, I have read (some of) the blible and other religious books, I have gone to religious retreats, so even if I’m not a scholar I do have “some” knowledge about religion .

The idea of faith through reason is not something they can fathom, because they have not read anything other than science textbooks

Believe it or not, there are atheist that are NOT into science. I do love science but also love literature in general, poetry, philosophy, science fiction, I just enjoy a good book.

True  atheism…

Sorry, I stoped reading after true atheism,  if you don’t have the beliefs in gods that’s mostly it.

Science can’t comment on God though.  So no, there is no scientific basis for atheistic belief

If someone says that something  took actions into the world and affected it then there must be something that can be measured about those actions.  

And atheism is not a belief.

you have faith too.  You have faith that there is nothing more.

Nope, nope, nope. I don’t “have faith that there is nothing more”

I have no reason to believe or even suspect there is something more after we die, so I don’t. 

Well.

That’s all.



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collective-history:

Satan as depicted in the Ninth Circle of Hell in Dante Alighieri’s Inferno, illustrated by Gustave Doré.
Satan is the title of various entities, both human and divine, who challenge the faith of humans in the Hebrew Bible. In Christianity the title became a personal name, and “Satan” changed from an accuser appointed by God to test men’s faith to the chief of the rebellious fallen angels. In Islam, a shayṭān is any evil creature, whether human, animal or spirit. With the definite article, the Shayṭān is Iblis, the Devil.

collective-history:

Satan as depicted in the Ninth Circle of Hell in Dante Alighieri’s Inferno, illustrated by Gustave Doré.

Satan is the title of various entities, both human and divine, who challenge the faith of humans in the Hebrew Bible. In Christianity the title became a personal name, and “Satan” changed from an accuser appointed by God to test men’s faith to the chief of the rebellious fallen angels. In Islam, a shayṭān is any evil creature, whether human, animal or spirit. With the definite article, the Shayṭān is Iblis, the Devil.

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Atheism is what happens…

hopefulheathens:

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…when a seed of doubt is planted in the mind. That seed is typically planted when someone has a bad experience with the church or with Christians. They have a doubt and then they stock fuel around that spark of doubt. Everything becomes interpreted in light of that spark of doubt. It gets to the point where they are so certain of their doubt that they build walls between themselves and the truth that aren’t actually there. That spark turns into a raging uncontrollable fire. And all of it is based on the idea that God does not operate in a way that the individual seems appropriate. All of it because that individual realized that they aren’t in control, and they couldn’t handle that realization.

Actually, this is pretty far from true!  And it also doesn’t account for the people who are born into families that don’t have a religion.  Not to mention it totally excludes those people who practice different religions and feel just as confident that theirs is, in fact, the right religion.  Just as confidently as you feel that your religion is the right religion.

Every person has a different reason for holding the viewpoints they do.  It’s pretty ridiculous to make a blanket statement that all atheists are wounded souls who don’t like God.  If you say that to an atheist, I guarantee you that they will in turn ask you, “How can I be mad at something I don’t believe exists?”

Just as you do not believe Horus, Thor, Odin, Zeus are real, so an atheist does not believe your god is real.  Accusing them of all being jaded from bad experiences with your god is the same thing as someone accusing you of being mad at Zeus when you won’t admit he struck your house with lightning even though you insist that you don’t believe that he exists.

I’m more than happy as an atheist.  Yes, it took a big event for me to abandon my faith. But that is not the case for many atheists.  Besides, I had always questioned Christianity growing up.  I remember seeing a lot of things as contradictory and illogical, and years before I realized I was an atheist, I knew I at least didn’t believe in organized religion.  It was a gradual process.  

And I’m not bitter about God’s supposed actions in my life even though it took a rather tumultuous event to make me see how ridiculous my belief was.  I more realized that my life was in my hands, and shouting to the heavens was going to do me about as much good as sacrificing my brother to the gods in order to bring rainfall.  

So don’t worry!  Atheists are not sad because they’re mad at God for doing things to them that they didn’t like.  If you ever want proof of that, feel free to browse around my blog.  It exists for the very purpose of showing people that hope and happiness exist separately from a belief in any gods.

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lairdescendres:


Christopher Hitchens dying is a consequence of unbelief, but when millions of Christians die, God works in mysterious ways?
What about the fact that the number of atheists is stricken by sickness and death not higher than the christian number? For instance, why did John Paul II suffer from Parkinson’s disease, arthritis and laryngitis and have to die such a painful death?


@albertmohler are you fucking kidding me?

lairdescendres:

Christopher Hitchens dying is a consequence of unbelief, but when millions of Christians die, God works in mysterious ways?

What about the fact that the number of atheists is stricken by sickness and death not higher than the christian number? For instance, why did John Paul II suffer from Parkinson’s disease, arthritis and laryngitis and have to die such a painful death?

@albertmohler are you fucking kidding me?



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