I am SO sick of Christians being portrayed as stupid and Atheists being portrayed as the only reasonable logical people on the face of the earth. Many of my friends, and most of my oldest dearest friends are atheists. I’ve been on a knife’s edge with my faith, but arrogant atheists always keep me resolute.
First of all, a true scientist is agnostic. They are skeptical, but only disbelieve that which is disproved. Science does not PROVE ANYTHING, that is NOT what science is about. Science is a humble and methodical examination of the material world around us. It cannot prove or disprove the human soul, it cannot prove or disprove God, it cannot prove or disprove historic Christianity. All it can do is take a humble look at the world, and as dispassionately as possible attempt to draw conclusions. Perhaps the most brilliant mind of an age, Albert Einstein, did not approve of atheism and preferred a “humble agnosticism.” He referenced God on multiple occasions.
Most atheists don’t know anything about religion. It is all myth and ignorance to them. The idea of faith through reason is not something they can fathom, because they have not read anything other than science textbooks, certainty no Thomas Aquinas. Very few of my atheist friends, I’d wager, have ever read the entire bible or even Darwin’s entire Origin of Species. All they need to know about Christianity is Galileo’s history. A few of them know about Mendel’s genetics. Almost none of them know that the Big Bang theory is traced back to a Catholic priest. No, these scientific discoveries are dismissed, covered up, or reduced to “oh, well he must not have been Christian, he was only a Priest to get a cheap education…” Please.
True atheism has no central tenants such as the Christian faith, other than the belief there is no God, and have no delusion, that is a belief. Science can’t comment on God though. So no, there is no scientific basis for atheistic belief, no more than there is for Christian, Buddhist, or Muslim belief.
So stop your hate campaign. Stop belittling people for having faith that there is something more, because you have faith too. You have faith that there is nothing more. I’m willing to bet people will ultimately choose faith, reasoned faith, but faith nonetheless. A belief in something higher is better than a belief in nothing. The diversity of Christian belief is vast, and there are reasonable Christians, then there are less reasonable.
Keep in mind the belief in people’s equality found in our founding documents was born from Christian belief, science couldn’t prove it until much later. It was a belief. For example, it was the extreme religious element of society that proved most crucial in the Underground Railroad. So maybe there’s something to this Christianity. Maybe not. However hating us and trying to make us look stupid won’t work. The Westboro Baptists are not the heart of Christianity, Christ is, and he has a very different message.
I don’t usually comment on these post but I just want to make some quick replies.
First the Good:
I am SO sick of Christians being portrayed as stupid and Atheists being portrayed as the only reasonable logical people on the face of the earth.
So far I agree, I know many intelligent people that are also very religious and many atheists that are not really very bright (to say the least)
The Westboro Baptists are not the heart of Christianity, Christ is, and he has a very different message.
OK, this is also true, Westboro Baptists are not (in my opinion) what all religious people behave like.
Sorry, Couldn’t find much more to agree with.
Now the Bad
First of all, a true scientist is agnostic. They are skeptical, but only disbelieve that which is disproved.
The true scientist apply the scientific method, there’s nothing much else to it so I don’t follow this claim. They should be skeptical, that’s true but “ only disbelieve that which is disproved” it’s so wrong… really wrong.
If something is proven then you have rational reasons to believe in it, not the other way around. No one has disproved that a cyborg unicorn lives in mars, that doesn’t means that is reasonable to assume there is.
Perhaps the most brilliant mind of an age, Albert Einstein, did not approve of atheism and preferred a “humble agnosticism.” He referenced God on multiple occasions.
I don’t even want to discuss this so I’ll just quote
“It’s irrelevant whether he may or may not maybe sorta kinda entertained the idea of a greater power or not. Whatever his beliefs were, it never superseded his work as a physicist*. His concerns were that of the material world.” more…
Most atheists don’t know anything about religion.
I’m pretty sure many atheists are well versed in religion texts. But I can really only speak for myself: I was raised in a religious family, baptized, made my first comunion, studied in a religious school, I have read (some of) the blible and other religious books, I have gone to religious retreats, so even if I’m not a scholar I do have “some” knowledge about religion .
The idea of faith through reason is not something they can fathom, because they have not read anything other than science textbooks
Believe it or not, there are atheist that are NOT into science. I do love science but also love literature in general, poetry, philosophy, science fiction, I just enjoy a good book.
Sorry, I stoped reading after true atheism, if you don’t have the beliefs in gods that’s mostly it.
Science can’t comment on God though. So no, there is no scientific basis for atheistic belief
If someone says that something took actions into the world and affected it then there must be something that can be measured about those actions.
And atheism is not a belief.
you have faith too. You have faith that there is nothing more.
Nope, nope, nope. I don’t “have faith that there is nothing more”
I have no reason to believe or even suspect there is something more after we die, so I don’t.
What Is Skepticism? (Text skeptoid / Image cbcastro)
To quote Dr. Shermer: Skepticism is not a position; it’s a process.
The popular misconception is that skeptics, or critical thinkers, are people who disbelieve things. And indeed, the common usage of the word skeptical supports this: “He was skeptical of the numbers in the spreadsheet”, meaning he doubted their validity. To be skeptical, therefore, is to be negative about things and doubt or disbelieve them.
The true meaning of the word skepticism has nothing to do with doubt, disbelief, or negativity. Skepticism is the process of applying reason and critical thinking to determine validity. It’s the process of finding a supported conclusion, not the justification of a preconceived conclusion.
It’s thus inaccurate to say “Skeptics don’t believe in ghosts.” Some do. Many skeptics are deeply religious, and are satisfied with the reasoning process that led them there. Skeptics apply critical thinking to different aspects of their lives in their own individual way. Everyone is a skeptic to some degree.
Skepticism is, or should be, an extraordinarily powerful and positive influence on the world. Skepticism is not simply about “debunking” as is commonly charged. Skepticism is about redirecting attention, influence, and funding away from worthless superstitions and toward projects and ideas that are evidenced to be beneficial to humanity and to the world.
The scientific method is central to skepticism. The scientific method requires evidence, preferably derived from validated testing. Anecdotal evidence and personal testimonies generally don’t meet the qualifications for scientific evidence, and thus won’t often be accepted by a responsible skeptic; which often explains why skeptics get such a bad rap for being negative or disbelieving people. They’re simply following the scientific method.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, particularly in claims that are far fetched or that violate physical laws. Skepticism is an essential, and meaningful, component of the search for truth.